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i've been waiting for this by R727 i've been waiting for this by R727
don't hold back. give me a real fight. i've been waiting for this.

Had Yael out this weekend, spent some time playing with his jointed hands and thinking about doll body language? Something like that. I always complain that I can never portray Ysrael as violent as I like, that I have a hard time getting that tension and energy in his poses.

People also sometimes ask me for tips in posing dolls and I have a hard time articulating responses besides "make it look natural". 8); You just have to step back and think "can a person actually pose like that?" and "does this posture convey what I'm trying to get across?" and act out the poses yourself to get a feel for how the body works and should look. It's not enough for it to look right to you. You shouldn't have to explain outright what your doll is doing or feeling, you should make it as visually obvious as possible to everyone. For me, it's a lot of little minute things about a pose that add up to something good.

When I started taking photos today, I started out with Yael like this: [link]

Didn't like it though, wasn't what I wanted. He looked too much like he was praying, or maybe about to bow. Not enough force in his arms. After doing a bit of flexing and posing of my own arms and body, I realized his elbows needed to be raised and pointed outward to get the body language I wanted. His head also needed to be tilted to the side rather than forward; a forward tilt looked too acquiescent. Tilted to the side was more arrogant.

Unfortunately, his arms wouldn't stay up the way I wanted on their own, even with sueding. 8); So I stuffed some white tack inside his shoulder joints to get them to stay. I do this A LOT when I can't get arms to stay where I want them. Rubber erasers, white tack, spare eye putty, they're so useful when it comes to posing.

And... yeah. I don't know, I'm sure I'm just spewing out shit a lot of you already know. And these shots aren't really exemplary of really awesome posing. Like at all. orz But it was fun for me, I spent a bit of time thinking about this while editing, so I figured why not tl;dr for a bit--

As always, you can find extras on my Tumblr: [link]
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Ysrael - Dollzone Tan Yuu

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Original characters, story and photos R727 (2008-2012)
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:iconchikumoxtsuna:
ChikumoxTsuna Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
THE LAST SHOT. THAT ANGST REACHED MY HEART.
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:iconnighthawke07:
Nighthawke07 Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2012  Student General Artist
How tall is that doll?
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:iconr727:
R727 Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2012
He's 70cm tall.
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:iconnighthawke07:
Nighthawke07 Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2012  Student General Artist
thanks.
they have really neat hands
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:iconanir-zero:
Anir-Zero Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2012
I'm Yael sevret lover. I really love this guy - he is so hot. And your photo is great, you have really got the perfect feeling out!
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:iconr727:
R727 Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2012
Thanks so much! 8)
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:iconmahou-koneko:
Mahou-Koneko Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012
I particularly like the last two shots, I think they convey a sense of anger and violence very well!
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:iconr727:
R727 Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012
Thank youuu~ 8)
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:iconkitan777:
Kitan777 Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012
awesome!
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:iconr727:
R727 Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012
Thank you!
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:iconkitan777:
Kitan777 Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2012
yw ^w^
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:iconeludys:
Eludys Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Nice shots.
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:iconr727:
R727 Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012
Thank you!
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:iconluthienyavetil:
luthienyavetil Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012  Student General Artist
Omg. White tacky. GENIUS. <3 Thank you, I am definitely going to use that now. NONE of my people ever can keep their arms up -_- Eveeeeeeer.
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:iconr727:
R727 Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012
Yesss, it is the best thing ever! 8D I always keep a bit on hand when I take photos. Just stuff a bit in their joints temporarily and it works perfectly.
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:iconmizuchiaki:
mizuchiaki Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012  Student Digital Artist
His hands can seem to be jointed for a greeting of the ancient times, and I like it so much =D
I really love this pose, and tha lighting is beautiful~~
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:iconr727:
R727 Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012
Thank you! 8)
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:iconmizunotsubasa:
mizunotsubasa Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
I really like how this came out, the fun of jointed hands.
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:iconr727:
R727 Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012
Thaaanks~ 8)
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:iconmoonchildyuuki:
MoonChildYuuki Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
actually i knew nothing of what you explained. it helped understand a lot! :]
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:iconr727:
R727 Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012
Yay! \o/ I'm glad it was informative in some way!
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:iconphoenixofdarkness62:
Phoenixofdarkness62 Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I didn't know a lot of them, or more like I didn't realize how much well, effort goes into posing a doll. I have a hard enough time trying to get people to pose for me, so I've always wondered a bit about doll posing. Anyway... Yael looks like a boss, not gonna lie. I think these shots definitely show how violent he can be, especially with a lot of close ups on his hands like that.
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:iconr727:
R727 Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012
Thanks! It's basically the same for any sort of photography or drawing or any sort of art form. Though I suppose you don't have the benefit of telling someone how to pose in doll photography -- you just have to shove their limbs around. |D;
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:iconphoenixofdarkness62:
Phoenixofdarkness62 Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
You're welcome! I figured, but then again experience is the best teacher. xD Poor dolls, at least with humans I can ask nicely, then shove their limbs around. xD
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:iconmigueuapollodante:
MigueuApolloDante Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2012
OMG!I LOVE HIS HANDS!>///w///<
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:iconr727:
R727 Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012
Thaaanks~ 8)
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:iconfourdaysofdeath:
fourdaysofdeath Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2012
That second photo is rather nice. The glint of his eyes makes me want to run away screaming something like I'M SORRY I DIDN'T MEAN TO STUFF YOUR EARS WITH FLOWERS OH GOD OH GOD THIS IS HOW IT ENDS. Cue Zhao happily grabbing a bucket of popcorn and sitting down to watch.

8) Good to see you're having fun with the jointed hands, though! The photo in your sta.sh does make him look like he's about to bow or pray, but that could just be him paying his last respects to you before you die, you know, like an intimidation technique. Goddammit, Yael, you're so violent I just automatically associate whatever you're doing with hurting people. |D
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:iconr727:
R727 Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012
It ends WITH A FIST IN YO FACE-- k maybe not but--

Pshawww, Yael paying last respects. PSHAW-- if he feels that someone deserves his fist in their face, he likely doesn't respect them at all. /o/
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fourdaysofdeath Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2012
Wow, just a punch? I didn't know Yael could be so merciful. o_o Vao, I think your Koya has a fever.

Haha! Ahhh, I've been watching way too much historical samurai anime and shit for the sake of my East Asian Studies major I swear--*shot* What with my romanticizing violence and all that-- Yael'd make a horrible samurai. O.o
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:iconr727:
R727 Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2012
Yael: *you didn't cut open his face or try to kidnap Mathey or beat up his brother, a punch is enough*
Vao: Really? ' ^' *reaches up and puts hand on Yael's forehead*

He really would be a terrible samurai. |D
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:iconfourdaysofdeath:
fourdaysofdeath Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2012
o 3o Fair enough, Yael. ... 83 *d'awwws at Vao and Yael--hey, it's the simple things in life--*

|D All that honor and cutting your own stomach open in the face of capture shit-- And then to make it worse we have the studying the tea ceremony and Japanese flower arranging stuff. Ahh well. |D *patpat*
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:iconr727:
R727 Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012
Yael: ... *fuck all that shit*

Oh yeah. He'd never cut it as a samurai. |D; He'd be the worst.
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:iconfourdaysofdeath:
fourdaysofdeath Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2012
Not to mention that your liege lord totally has the right to not tell you the whole story when giving you orders. |D Blind obedience FTW-- Yup, you're better off the way you are, Yael. XD Aint'cha glad that you work for Falen now?
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XoBrittuhoX Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
I love the explanation! I like seeing/hearing the thought process that goes into photographing a specific pose.
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:iconr727:
R727 Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012
Thanks! 8D
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:iconselendrile-gotg:
Selendrile-GotG Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2012
he looks so intimidating. You did a great job, darling. =D and it's nice hearing your explanation of how you managed to achieve the realism effect, so dont discredit yourself for that. =D My question is...."who is Yael gonna hurt now?" xD
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:iconr727:
R727 Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012
Thaaanks~ my answer would be "someone who may or may not deserve it". 8);
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:iconselendrile-gotg:
Selendrile-GotG Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2012
prolly, ne? =D oooh, kowai kowai~
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